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WA- HB2511/motorcycle profiling
http://www.thenewstribune.com/topsto...y/1041829.html
Motorcyclists ask Legislature for fair treatment legislature: Riders say law enforcement harasses them; bill addresses issue MAKS GOLDENSHTEYN; Staff writer Published: 01/24/10 6:59 am | Updated: 01/24/10 6:59 am Donnie Landsman has grown accustomed to those fleeting looks of disapproval and trepidation. When drivers pull up alongside his motorcycle on the highway, they grip their steering wheels a little tighter and tell their kids to look away. Landsman said he’s been denied service at restaurants for wearing a bandanna and a leather vest. But Landsman, better known in the riding community as “Mr. Breeze,” isn’t in a gang. The husband and father of three has been riding motorcycles for about 40 years, and said he has yet to encounter anyone who belongs to one. As the man who heads up legislative efforts for the Washington chapter of ABATE (American Bikers for Awareness, Training, and Education), a motorcyclist advocacy group, Landsman works to fight negative assumptions about riders. Such stereotypes are particularly grating when they come from law enforcement officers, who Landsman and others say target bikers for selective enforcement and even harassment. In a word: profiling. “Motorcyclists aren’t looking for special rights,” Landsman said. “We want the same rights that are afforded to every other section of the population as American citizens and as citizens of Washington state. We aren’t being given that.” The group found a champion in Rep. Steve Kirby, D-Tacoma, who introduced a bill that would force local law enforcement agencies to adopt a written policy designed to condemn and prevent the profiling of motorcyclists and to institute training to address the issue. But police officials say such a measure would be unnecessary. Capt. Jason Berry of the Washington State Patrol says that there are already policies in place that prohibit profiling of any kind. And anyone who wants to can call in or go online to report any misconduct. “We do not profile any group according to what they ride or drive,” Berry said. “We stop for violations of the law and take the appropriate enforcement actions as a result.” MONITORED BY POLICE Biker advocates point to an incident last year as evidence that they are being singled out. Last January, dozens of motorcyclists traveled to Olympia for an event called Black Thursday, an annual motorcycle rights lobbying day. They parked their motorcycles near the governor’s mansion, as directed by parking personnel. In the meantime, the Washington State Patrol released a statement to the media announcing the motorcyclists’ arrival. Part of that statement read: “Approximately 25 Bandito organized motorcycle gang members have arrived on campus for the ABATE ‘Black Thursday’ event. They are showing their gang colors; however, we do not expect any trouble. WSP troopers will be closely monitoring this group.” While the riders were inside the Capitol attempting to find sponsorship for a bill that would stop motorcycle profiling, the Washington State Patrol arrived and began taking down license plate numbers. None of the motorcyclists would have ever known about the incident were it not for some video footage that was captured as the officers were working. Some officers are even shown ducking through bushes to record the information. “That’s gang activity, to go see our legislators?” Landsman said. “I guess the idea is that if bikers come in, we’re shutting the door and beating them (legislators) up.” ABATE leaders cite several other recent episodes of what they see as profiling. And they say they have evidence to show that law enforcement officials are not only aware of motorcycle profiling, but that they had as recently as eight years ago been circulating a training pamphlet that encouraged it. In December 2002, a permanent injunction was issued by Thurston County Superior Court against the state and the Washington State Patrol from using a document called “Biker’s Basic – 101” as an outline for training troopers and other officers. ‘BIKERS ARE DANGEROUS’ A copy provided by ABATE’s attorney outlines the three main motorcycle equipment violations in Washington state (helmet, noise and handlebar height); includes protocol for how to pull bikers over; directs troopers to legally impound the motorcycle and “book” the biker if possible; and tells them to talk to riders about their patches, to take pictures of their badges and bikes, and to be professional. The first line reads: “Bikers are dangerous.” “Now if that isn’t a statement of profiling, I don’t know what is,” Landsman said. ABATE claims these protocols are still being followed and that the state’s helmet, handlebar and noise laws are being used as a false justification for pulling over motorcyclists. AUTHORITIES’ RESPONSE Kirby, a South Tacoma Democrat, says he’s been intrigued by the topic for a while. He sponsored similar bills in 2003 and 2005, but they garnered little attention. Lately, he’s been wondering whether his long hair and beard would make him a target if he ever got on a bike. “I would be profiled too if I had a fancy enough machine,” Kirby said, also stressing that his measure has little to do with picking a fight with law enforcement. “I think what you have is a limited number of people in agencies that have some sort of predisposition about bikers,” said Kirby. Much of the language used in Kirby’s House Bill 2511 is borrowed from a measure passed in 2002 that required law enforcement agencies to initiate policies to reduce racial profiling. That law seemed to “work overnight,” he said. Law enforcement officials, meanwhile, deny that motorcyclists are being targeted. “What motorcycle profiling?” asked Don Pierce, executive director for the Washington Association of Sheriffs & Police Chiefs. “In traffic situations, here’s who we profile: people who violate the law.” NOTE: videos YouTube - Visit to the Washington Legislature with the WSP-Black Thursday-Motorcycles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_HBp...eature=related ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HB 2511 - 2009-10 http://apps.leg.wa.gov/billinfo/summ...2009#documents Addressing motorcycle profiling. History of Bill as of Tuesday, February 2, 2010 7:42 PM Sponsors: Representatives Kirby, Blake, Upthegrove, Conway, Van De Wege, Ormsby, Moeller, Campbell, Haigh 2010 REGULAR SESSION Jan 4 Prefiled for introduction. Jan 11 First reading, referred to Public Safety & Emergency Preparedness. (View Original Bill) Feb 2 Public hearing and executive action taken in the House Committee on Public Safety & Emergency Preparedness at 10:00 AM. (Committee Materials) PSEP - Executive action taken by committee. PSEP - Majority; do pass. (Majority Report) Minority; do not pass. (Minority Report) Bill wording: http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/bil...Bills/2511.pdf K
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Watched a show on TV last night featuring the Million Dollar road. The cyclists were riding crotch rockets and far exceeding the speed limit and weaving in and out of traffic. Blasting through 45 mile curves at 80 and 90 mph and hitting over 120 in the straights. Road is classified as one of the most dangerous roads in the United States. That being said and on TV for millions to see. What kind of Rep does that give Riders, it gives the press and non riding public all the ammo they need. WE as riders continually shoot ourselves in the foot and cry tears bigger than horse turds because we are being singled out. Now I do believe that we are profiled but why? Just watch TV the media doesn't show the good things we do.
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Legislative News and Alerts | From Mr Breeze, State Legislative Officer
ABATE of Washington HB2511 Hearing Testimony [Addressing motorcycle profiling] by Mr Breeze 9. February 2010 14:30 This is part of the Public Safety and Emergency Preparednes Committee testimony of February 2, 2010. As you will see in the video, the committee went directly to a vote and Passed the Profiling Bill to the next step by a vote of 7 to 1. To hear the full testimony (audio only) go to 1hr 5min 38sec on this link: http://www.tvw.org/media/mediaplayer...4180502&bhcp=1 |
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www.abate-wa.org/Blogs/Legislative/default.aspx
Call-to-Action ABATE of Washington by StateLAO 12. February 2010 10:53 Things are moving along for HB2511 – Addressing Motorcycle Profiling. A definition of a legislative term: PULL – Slang term used in legislative circles for moving a bill. For example – Rules committee may move (pull) bills from the committee to the floor of the House for full consideration. A little timeline to get you up to speed: Feb. 2nd, 2010 – the Motorcycle Profiling Bill was heard in the House Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness committee. The testimony was historical for 2 reasons: 1.) ABATE of Washington and the US Defenders of Washington teamed up to testified before a committee for the first time. Double D and Mr. Breeze were the main speakers, and the testimony was concise and compelling. 2.) The House Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness committee went into Executive Session (without caucus) and HB2511 was passed by a 7 to 1 vote. The Bill was then referred to the Rules committee. Feb. 11, 2010 – the House Rules committee ‘pulled’ the bill and it is heading for the floor for a vote. The vote is not guaranteed, and the House cutoff date for bills in the house of origin is Feb.16th, 2010. This is where all of ABATE and the US Defenders can help the cause. It is time to contact your REPRESENTATIVES (not Senators) by phone and/or email, and ask them to support HB2511 by voting YES! To locate your district and Representatives, follow these steps:
Sample letter (to cut and paste): __________________________________________________ _______________ Dear Representative, On February 2nd, the Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness committee forwarded HB2511 to the Rules committee. On February 11th, HB2511 was placed on the second reading calendar by the House Rules committee. I am writing you as a concerned constituent and to urge you to vote YES and pass HB2511! With this being a short session, it is crucial that this bill pass through the House as soon as possible, so the community can have a chance to get a Senate hearing, and advance this bill to the Governors desk for signature. Thank you. __________________________________________________ _______________ |
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ABATE of Washington:
www.abate-wa.org/Blogs/Legislative/default.aspx HB2511 - Addressing Motorcycle Profiling Passes the House 96 to 2. by StateLAO 15. February 2010 14:12 Feb 15, 2010 OlympiaWashington In a monumental and historical vote, the House passed HB2511 -Addressing Motorcycle Profiling by a margin of 96 to 2. This landslide vote provides an indication that legislators are actually getting the idea Profiling is real and needs legislative relief. Rep. Charles Ross ® 14th District noted that the lack of opposition during the Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness (PSEP) hearing was a silent show of support from Law Enforcement. The big surprise during the House floor debate was that again there was no opposition, and after a show of support from prime sponsor Rep. Steve Kirby (D) 29th District, Ross , and Hurst (D) 31st District and the Chair of the PSEP committee, the bill was opened for vote and immediately passed. It was remarkable to hear the legislators mention the organized and well presented information at the PSEP hearing from the motorcycle community. This bill has never gone this far in any previous year. Next step – The bill will be read into the record in the Senate and assigned to a hearing committee, most likely Judiciary. Then the process gets real interesting trying to get a public hearing, and to get the support of the majority of the 49 Senators. Time is not on our side, as there are only about 3 weeks left in this years session before what is know as Adjounment Sine Die (latin for adjounment until next legislative session) on March 11th, 2010. This has been a very good year for ABATE of Washington and the US defenders of Washington. We have worked together to make this happen, and are truly on the same page. Donnie ‘Mr. Breeze’ Landsman ABATE of Washington Legislative Affairs Officer legislative1@abate-wa.org |
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Legislative News and Alerts | From Mr Breeze, State Legislative Officer
HB2511 Introduced in the Senate by StateLAO 17. February 2010 09:44 Feb 17, 2010 – Olympia Washington HB2511-Addressing Motorcycle Profiling received a First Reading on the Senate Floor and has been assigned to the Senate Judiciary committee. This is the first step in the process of moving the Bill to a vote from the 49 Senator. Whether the you are a constituent or not, you need to petition all 8 member of the Senate Judiciary and urge the committee to schedule a Public Hearing as soon as possible. See committee information below; Click on the Senators name; fill in the information; and let your voice be heard. ———————————————— ———-Sample letter—————————————— ———————————————- Dear Senator, I am appealing to all members of the Senate Judiciary committee for support to have a public hearing. HB2511-Addressing Motorcycle Profiling, passed the House by a 96 to 2 vote on January 15th. The Bill received first reading in the Senate on January 17th and has been referred to the Senate Judiciary committee. On behalf of ABATE of Washington and the US Defenders of Washington, this is a request for a Judiciary Public Hearing, as soon as possible. I belief that you will find the testimony both compelling and organized, and we are simply asking for the opportunity to present the information in a hearing. Thank you in advance for your prompt attention to this issue, __________________________________________________ ____________ Donnie ‘Mr. Breeze’ Landsman Senator-Room-Phone Kline, Adam (D) Chair ABATE of Washington - Page not found JAC 223 (360) 786-7688 Regala, Debbie (D) Vice Chair ABATE of Washington - Page not found JAC 233 (360) 786-7652 McCaslin, Bob ® * ABATE of Washington - Page not found INB 112 (360) 786-7606 Carrell, Mike ® ABATE of Washington - Page not found INB 102 (360) 786-7654 Gordon, Randy (D) ABATE of Washington - Page not found LEG 409 (360) 786-7641 Hargrove, James (D) ABATE of Washington - Page not found LEG 411 (360) 786-7646 Kohl-Welles, Jeanne (D) ABATE of Washington - Page not found JAC 219 (360) 786-7670 Roach, Pam ® ABATE of Washington - Page not found INB 202 (360) 786-7660 |
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Legislative News and Alerts | From Mr Breeze, State Legislative Officer
ABATE of Washington HB2511 - Senate Judiciary Hearing by StateLAO February 22, 2010 HB2511 – Addressing Motorcycle Profiling, has been scheduled for a PUBLIC HEARING on Friday February 26th, 2010 at 1:30pm. John A. Cherberg Buliding, Meeting Room 1. This is another step in the historic march of this bill. Hope to see representation from all the motorcycle community! Donnie ‘Mr. Breeze’ Landsman |
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Results for the profiling bill Washington Road Riders
Washington Road Riders Results for the profiling bill Hello, all, I note that the profiling bill promoted by the Confederation of Clubs and ABATE of Washington, HB 2511, was *overwhelmingly* embraced by the House of Representatives. Note that there are 98 members in the State House. All but TWO voted in favor of a bill that said it’s not OK to single out citizens for preemptive stops because they *look* like members of a certain group, i.e. bikers. Before I say anything else: please contact your House representatives and *thank them* for voting for this bill. I was in Olympia on Wednesday (to meet with the Director of DOL and her staff) and made a point of visiting my members’ offices. Call, email, write – but thank them. I’ve watched this bill try to make its way through the Legislature in years past. It’s seemed that its biggest obstacle was not the language of the bill itself, but the language of those who spoke about the bill. In years past, there was a lot of anger, a lot of angst, a lot of finger-pointing. Not this year. This year, there was a lot of considered conversation about the rights of free men and women in a democratic society. All of us – patch holders, alternative club-style riders, and rank-and-file independent bikers – spoke to our legislators in measured and polite tones about civil rights and ‘the America that made America famous’. We struck a chord, and overwhelmingly won the House. Our lack of victory in the Senate was, in my opinion, no fault of the bill or our approach to it. It was an artifact of a short session with too much to do and the short news cycle we’ve all come to know and [feel something about]. In truth, the bill did not lose in the Senate. It just never got a chance to win. I’m encouraged not only by the progress made by this bill, but by the progress made by *us*. A lot of motorcyclists across a broad spectrum of our sometimes divided constituency came together and BLEW OUT the House. On Black Thursday, I had the pleasure of meeting with – and standing with – leaders from diverse segments of the motorcycle community, and I believe that our consensus carried the day. It’s unfortunate that we have enjoyed this partial victory at the end of a biennium, and we do not have another session to fight the fight of HB2511. Nonetheless, I do not think we are done, I do think we can build on the success of this session, and I look forward to working with my brothers and sisters in the motorcycle community to protect the civil rights of those who ride from discrimination and selective enforcement. We must all hang together – or we shall certainly hang separately. I hope you will join us for our regular meeting on Wednesday, March 31, to discuss this and other stories from the 2010 legislative session. — Ian March 5th, 2010 | Category: Event Reports |
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It never ends,it is what it is.
I have to go buy an expensive new helmet now because they are ticketing riders with beenies,they changed the law so they can revenue us,I've heard if you get pulled over with a non DOT helmet they will impound the bike. One more nail in the coffin of personal freedom. ![]() We voted out the helmet law a couple years back but the Gov vetoed it. ![]() What a crock of ![]() We used to be able to rode free here,no helmet,no mandatory insurance,no handlebar or other equipment hassles,now it's no more loud pipes,tall bars or running without a front fender or mirrors etc,they will pull you over and write you up for anything and may take your bike.
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I'm all for biker rights. I hate to wear a helmet and I hate to be pulled over just because I'm on a bike. I also hate biker only roadblocks that are setup close to rallys and other bike events just so the city/town/state can make a few extra bucks.
In the article above I'm calling bullshit on this statement: "But Landsman, better known in the riding community as “Mr. Breeze,” isn’t in a gang. The husband and father of three has been riding motorcycles for about 40 years, and said he has yet to encounter anyone who belongs to one." Maybe its different in his part of the country but how can you be a biker, bike nights, bike events and never "encounter" a patched biker? He heads up legislative efforts for the Washington chapter of ABATE and has never run into a patched biker? Or maybe he is saying he never ran into a biker gang member.
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